In 1941 and 1980

8 Dec

I already wrote about this last year, so I’ll try not to repeat myself (please click here to see my post from last year…with pictures).

At 8:30AM on 1941 December 7 (Hawaiian time), (and 3:30PM on December 8 in Japan), the U.S. Naval base in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii was attacked by Japanese Kamikaze pilots.

It is taught in America that it was a sneak attack by the Japanese, but in Japan it’s said that America’s embargo on Japan was a declaration of war.

Either way, war is bad all around and it’d be nice if the world could be peaceful.

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And also, as I mention in my post last year, 1980 December 8 was the day that John Lennon was murdered.

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27 Responses to “In 1941 and 1980”

  1. askkorean1 March 6, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    typo: educate yourself.

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    • tokyo5 March 6, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

      >typo: educate yourself.

      Don’t worry about that. I knew what you meant…and that isn’t your only grammar and spelling error anyways.

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  2. askkorean1 March 6, 2011 at 11:46 am #

    Tokyo, your missing the whole point of this argument. Your getting emotional because you know Japan is guilty one. Not Korea. History isn’t small thing. Koreans and Japanese are not bickering over small issues. Your uneducated attitude clearly states even though you been living in Tokyo for so many years. You still don’t have any idea about Japanese history and culture. Tokyo, educated yourself.

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    • tokyo5 March 6, 2011 at 12:55 pm #

      >your missing the whole point of this argument.

      No. I can see your point…you’re just wrong.

      >Your getting emotional

      That’s incorrect too.

      >Japan is guilty one.

      “Guilty” of what?

      >Not Korea.

      I never accused Korea of anything.

      >Koreans and Japanese are not bickering over small issues.

      Almost no Japanese people even think about WW2 anymore. Much less “bicker” about it.

      >You still don’t have any idea about Japanese history and culture.

      You think so? Well, I did ask you a couple times to give some examples and evidence of your claims.

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  3. askkorean1 March 5, 2011 at 3:47 pm #

    tokyo, I think your the one getting emotional and upset the fact. Japan changed history 500 times during and after Meiji Period. You have to ask why? Who feels more guilty about the past? Korea or Japan? This isn’t wartime apology issues or peaceful country for generation issues. It’s a ” Mental” issue with Japan historians. Why did Japan historians changed Japan history 500 times during and after Meiji period??

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    • tokyo5 March 5, 2011 at 6:44 pm #

      >I think your the one getting emotional and upset the fact.

      Why do you say that? Do I somehow seem upset? Because I’m not…at all.

      >Japan changed history 500 times during and after Meiji Period.

      Like I said above…just because you say that doesn’t make it true. Even if you were taught that in your school—it’s still not necessarily true.

      What examples of changes can you give? Any?
      Do you know for yourself what is taught in Japan’s history books? What do you think is taught that is incorrect exactly?

      >Who feels more guilty about the past?

      Most people in Japan have moved on from WW2 long ago. Some other countries never seem to pass on a chance to bring it up.

      >This isn’t wartime apology issues or peaceful country for generation issues.

      But, then, why do some in Korea keep insisting for another apology?

      >Why did Japan historians changed Japan history 500 times during and after Meiji period??

      I’m not so sure they did. I’ve never heard that before.

      Anyways, I don’t want to continue to debate this. I, like most people, think that Japan and Korea have friendly ties now and that’s a good thing. Bickering over small details in history when the big picture is agreed upon serves no purpose.

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  4. askkorean1 March 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    Korea didn’t change history textbook 500 times like japan during ( Meiji period – modern day). Japan even still don’t know there own racial and cultural origin. During Meiji Japan ( Japanese Historians tried so hard to erase all Korean cultural identity in Japan and Japanese DNA. The fact is they couldn’t.

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    • tokyo5 March 2, 2011 at 5:10 pm #

      I know Japan’s colonialism of many parts of Asia over sixty years ago is an emotional issue even today to many people in Korea, China and some other countries.

      I’m not trying to upset you…but I don’t think the way history is recorded in Japan has been altered or changed at all. Certainly not “500 times”.

      Anyways, your reply still doesn’t answer my question…how can you be sure that what you were taught about history is really accurate and not government propaganda?

      Actually though, the point is moot. Japan has apologized for it’s wartime atrocities.
      Japan has been a peaceful country for generations.

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  5. askkorean1 March 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm #

    Japan should learn and write history correctly. That was my point.

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    • tokyo5 March 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm #

      How can you be so certain that your country isn’t the one that teaches history inaccurately?

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  6. askkorean1 March 1, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    Learn from history. Pear Harbor Attack from Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki Attack from USA. It all came from one cause one package to peace.

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    • tokyo5 March 1, 2011 at 7:16 pm #

      >Learn from history.

      By that, do you mean that Japan should learn from history?
      I’d say Japan has…very well.
      Japan has been a peaceful country since WW2.

      The “Korean War”, on the other hand, was after WW2.

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  7. tokyo5 December 13, 2009 at 1:31 pm #

    I mentioned John Lennon’s passing in this post…

    I just learned that the world’s only official John Lennon Museum (which is in Japan) will close soon.

    https://tokyo5.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/lennon-museum-closing/

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  8. Sir Pent December 12, 2009 at 3:15 am #

    Agreed. My absolute favorite KISS songs are almost all Gene.

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    • tokyo5 December 12, 2009 at 10:37 pm #

      I think most KISS fans like Paul’s songs best though.

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  9. Sir Pent December 11, 2009 at 11:44 pm #

    With KISS songs, Paul’s 70s songs are the ones I like the least. If you wanna talk 80s, then Paul wins because…let’s face it, Gene wasn’t even trying.

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    • tokyo5 December 12, 2009 at 1:14 am #

      But on most KISS albums, the best songs were the ones written by Gene Simmons, in my opinion.

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  10. Sir Pent December 11, 2009 at 9:28 am #

    Julian had a few cool songs…but overall not great. Yoko and Sean are terrible.

    I’m more of a fan Paul’s music than John’s…but they are both amazing.

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    • tokyo5 December 11, 2009 at 9:41 pm #

      I haven’t heard any of Julian Lennon’s music that I liked.

      And I think most Beatles fans like Paul McCartney’s songs best, and most KISS fans like Paul Stanley’s songs best…but I like John Lennon’s and Gene Simmons’, respectively, best.

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  11. Sir Pent December 11, 2009 at 1:15 am #

    I think that is true. After he split with his first wife, he had little to do with them. Yoko (if you can believe it) supposedly encouraged a “relationship”.

    I’m strictly talking about his rightful share of John Lennon’s estate. Julian had to go through several years of court battles to get only a few million dollars. A “few” sounds terrible, but why should Sean Lennon get dozens of millions of dollars from his father’s work and Julian gets a one time payment of less than 10 million? As the executor Yoko could have given him a sizable inheritance without a legal battle and STILL be a phenomenally wealthy woman.

    Paul McCartney will not even speak to her anymore because of her unreasonable business antics.

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    • tokyo5 December 11, 2009 at 1:58 am #

      It’s too bad (if) John Lennon’s family became dysfunctional…but that’s their private life.

      I think John Lennon’s music is great (the best of The Beatles, both with the band and solo).
      I’m not a big fan of the music of Yoko Ono, Julian Lennon, or Sean Lennon though.

      Also I think the work that John Lennon and Yoko Ono did to promote world peace was excellent.

      It’s really too bad that a lunatic had to kill him in 1980.

      (By the way, I met Sean Lennon in Tokyo once a number of years ago.)

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  12. Sir Pent December 10, 2009 at 3:51 am #

    I will not give ANY kind of credit to Yoko Ono for anything.
    1) She is a failed artist and musician
    2) If you’ve read any of the articles or seen any of the news footage on how she managed to shut Julian Lennon out of his share of the Lennon estate, you’d understand what a small person she is.

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    • tokyo5 December 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm #

      I heard that John Lennon himself had nothing to do with his first son Julian, and that Yoko Ono actually felt sorry for Julian and tried to reconcile them.

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  13. cuteandcurls December 9, 2009 at 9:21 am #

    I agree nothing can be resolved from wars, we all should know better after what the brave men of WWI and WWII have sacrificed in doing so and yet power hungry nitwits are still doing it and who gets sacrificed innocent people … John Lennon’s death was terrible blow too. What Yoko Ono has done sounds brilliant and I hope those who have the pieces will return in 10 years time to put them altogether. I never knew about the museum i would’ve thought his birth place would build one for him and his fellow members.

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    • tokyo5 December 10, 2009 at 3:33 am #

      >What Yoko Ono has done sounds brilliant and…I never knew about the museum

      You’re referring to my post from last year where I mentioned Yoko Ono’s art project and the John Lennon Museum.

      If you like John Lennon, you should come to Japan to see the official John Lennon Museum!

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  14. David Gillaspie December 9, 2009 at 12:21 am #

    I hope you post about Dec. 7 every year.

    All we are asking is give Peace a chance,

    David Gillaspie
    http://deegeesbb.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/pearl-harbor-care-lessons/

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    • tokyo5 December 9, 2009 at 12:25 am #

      Thank you for commenting on my blog.
      Please visit and comment often.

      I just read your post. It’s very well-written!

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